$15 Minimum Wage

Rei

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Seattle will be raising its minimum wage to $15 an hour over the coming years. What do you guys think about this? Basically, people flipping burgers at McD will start off at $15 -- what about folks already making over $15+ currently, will they benefit a significant raise, or any from this? Do you think Seattle will succeed with this?
 
Seattle is a very expensive city to live in, the real estate here is doubled in comparison to surrounding areas. In fact, everything is more expensive here regarding cost of living such as rent, gas, parking, etc. Basically, if you aint got a very good job working for a good company, you are screwed and living day by day -- just to live in the city of Seattle. This leads to desperation and crimes and many different kinds of hardships for most people here. There is a huge income gap here and just walking in the streets here, you will see that in an instant. It affects all kinds of people, not just minorities. 90 percent of the White folks here are struggling. They have education, they abide the law, they don't cause any problems here but they still struggle cause there's just not enough high paying jobs that covers all the expenses. 15 an hour barely covers it, but it does. This wage is barely enough to pay the 1200 bucks for an average apartment, 150 per month for the monthly parking, and 4.00 dollars for the gallon of gas. 9 an hour just not gonna cut it.

15 dollar an hour for flipping burgers is a joke though. This shouldn't even be a part of it. Burger flipping is a fucking joke and should be shot down with lasers. These types of losers obviously would benefit the most out of this deal. The problem though, is that other jobs are paying minimum wage as well that requires more than flipping burgers. Labors jobs for example. Technical jobs, computers jobs, any other jobs out there and makes under 15 an hour is being made an issue. These jobs are paying 12.00 usually depending in factors like how rich the company so forth. The burger flipping thing just happens to be a small argument and doesn't highlight the overall situation.

Its a great plan, obviously some people benefit from it more than others, especially the burger flippers. Truth is, a lot of jobs that are very demanding are being paid less than 15 an hour and that's the real issue. Most of these jobs are entry level and encompassed a wide range of industries.

With 10 dollars in my pocket, I can go inside the gas station next to my apartment and with that, I can buy a a bag of chips, one candy bar, and a standard bottle of coke. I would have like a quarter left, if Im lucky.

I"m all for the 15 dollars in hour if you lived in this area but south seattle, you don't need 15 an hour to survive, you can literally survive off a 300 welfare check and 100 foodstamps, I guess I don't know for sure. but there are a lot of poor asian folks in South seattle and West Seattle and things are relatively cheaper there. The parking is FREE, the gas is about 50 cents cheaper, the rent is a few hundred dollars cheaper and property value is half the price. If you make 15 an hour living there, you are doing very well :D.

Just don't get shot or robbed walking down the street, don't mean mug no one, and keep to yourself and stay alert of your surroundings lol.
 
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I doubt the company will do a wage adjustment based on the economy trend for current employees whose wage are $15+.
 
The problem with companies moving is that once that happens, poor people will move too. Once the poor people move away, the rich will be in trouble man. The rich needs the poor people to remain rich. How the hell you think they got rich in the first place? Rich people cannot exist without the poor working slaves, cheap labor is one reason why the 1% become rich.

Rich doctors, lawyers, businesses - they are make money off poor people, regular working class people. Basically consumers. Why you think happen in the recession? Poor people stopped spending man. The rich people got problems with that. My biggest worry is that business here will shut down after there no one left to support it. The gas station next me, 99 percent of their customers are poor working folks. Imagine if all of them left the city cause they jobs moved to another city? The gas station will be out of business. Imagine that on a larger scale.

For this plan to work, business will have to stay here which I doubt man. Why? Greed. They would have to take a huge profit cut from paying their workers double pay man. Imagine an staff of 5. They all make 10 bucks an hour equaling 96,000 a year. Now imagine 15 an hour. 144,000 a yaer! Greed will motivated these businesses to move I'm sure. We'll see.

They will lose 44.000 a year. How will they make it up? They will just hike up the price man. Honestly, its gonna be a big mess in a few years.
 
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Yo if down their is so bad why do ppl want to live in the states so bad killing getting mug that's next level shit man do u guy even get drive by to that would be even more seriouse so much crazy ppl out their why so much conflicted
 
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It's good news if they don't also raise the cost of living. There is a complaint (in my area) that fast food workers are also on food stamp, so maybe this wage increase can afford them to at least get by without the support from the state. But from Happy's post, I'm not so sure since some parts of Seattle is expensive.

The burger places will most probably increase the cost of their menu items to compensate for higher minimum wage. Pretty soon burger eaters will have to fork out more pennies.
 

Rei

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That was a good read from you, Happy -- especially knowing you're from the area. Similar to what you stated, I can see small business owners suffering from this wage increase and relocate. I hope it benefits you somehow. :)

Like Hamster said, the dollar menu won't likely exist to compensate for the higher wage.
 
I rather they keep things as they are man I dont like change but honestly, the poor people here are literally protesting and wearing mask and carrying bats. I seen it here. The city is trying to avoid another WTO incident. Seattle love to protest man. The cops and business are afraid of that shit. I already seen two big protests in the 3 years I lived here. The crowds get really huge here, in the thousands and they stop traffic and affect businesses. Seattle just trying to keep the peace, gotta love the people of Seattle.
 
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believe

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Can we clarify if it is a county or state-wide implementation or what? Too lazy to Google.

Here in Southern California, we have different wages, taxes, etc. For instance, despite both cities being in the same county, Santa Monica has a minimum wage higher than Long Beach. I think the minimum wage in SM is about $13 an hour compared to Long Beach's $8 an hour. That's cuz the standard of living in these areas differ.

Do you guys think the recent legalization of marijuana in Washington affected the minimum wage there?
 
Can we clarify if it is a county or state-wide implementation or what? Too lazy to Google.

Here in Southern California, we have different wages, taxes, etc. For instance, despite both cities being in the same county, Santa Monica has a minimum wage higher than Long Beach. I think the minimum wage in SM is about $13 an hour compared to Long Beach's $8 an hour. That's cuz the standard of living in these areas differ.

Do you guys think the recent legalization of marijuana in Washington affected the minimum wage there?
The socioeconomic impact of state-level marijuana legalization will be positive but I don't see the correlation with minimum wage and wide spread pot consumption. However, growth will occur from Initiative 502. Money once lining the pockets of street dealers and kingpins will now be allocated into permit-holding pot shops owners, producers, and most importantly, the State of Washington's department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearm, and Liquor. I believe its estimated to be 40 million annually, maybe even higher - similar to the figures in Colorado.

The state has not been completely transparent as to where the bulk of 40 million will go towards but I assume that most of it will go towards greedy politicians and business owners, any of those on the upper echelon. Take your pick.

Legalization has created a whole new industry; many more job opportunities for the working man and pot entrepreneurs, thus improving the economy while decreasing the unemployment rate.

The economy in the State of Wa is pretty bad.

Welcome to our new post 9-11 recession government.

The city govt has a lot of dirty tricks. In Auburn, Wa alone, the city is so poor and desperate to generate money so they can pay off the city's worker wages that they literally cited hundreds of illegal traffic tickets everyday. No lie. And only to minorities. Thousands and thousands of dollars were generated from this shenanigan and many innocent minority groups paid a hefty price for being at the wrong place, wrong time, wrong skin color - just traveling to their destination.

I supposed I should count my lucky stars. I could been shot dead if I was black man in a predominately white territory.

I literally will have to hire a traffic lawyer now to clean up my abstract b/c when I was working in logistics company in Auburn, I was constantly being profiled. Cops literally tailgated me for 30 minutes until I make a mistake. After getting pulled over about 3 times, I caught on and never went back to that city. Till this day, I never drive in Auburn, WA.

Believe, I think its being implemented only in King County, Seattle. Anyways, this is why I'm a recluse, too many lies in the world.
 
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